Solitude or Loneliness? Why Creative People Burn Out
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Documentary First: The Deep Dive · built from Episode 278 with Armin Korsos · 10 minutes · May 28, 2026
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Why does the same time alone that makes a film good also wear a filmmaker down?
Christian Taylor has noticed that the times she has been most creative are the times she has been most alone: wandering in her thoughts about the work, music on, nobody around. She has also known the other kind of alone, the fundraising and the credit card math that land on one person. In this episode she separates solitude from loneliness, and explains why one makes the work good while the other is, in her words, "the thing that'll wear you down to nothing if you let it."
In this Deep Dive on Documentary First Episode 278 with Armin Korsos, Christian starts from something Armin said in their conversation: that filmmaking can be a very lonely process. Armin runs the Chicago production company Caymanite and co-founded Filmmaker Friday Chicago, a regular gathering of filmmakers in the city.
Christian draws on the writer Henri Nouwen, who describes loneliness as a desert that can be turned into a garden of solitude, and on C.S. Lewis on how friendship begins. Then she tells three moments when the alone stopped being the whole story: standing at the back of the theater at the Utah Beach Museum in Normandy the first time strangers watched her film, a phone call with a friend whose crew walked off a shoot, and the first night she walked into Filmmaker Friday.
In this Deep Dive, Christian explores
- The two kinds of being alone in creative work, and why Christian thinks the best filmmakers know the difference
- Why solitude is the garden: you can't write a scene by committee or hear what the story is asking for in a room full of noise
- The lonely math of filmmaking: fundraising, meetings with people who probably won't fund the film, and telling a crew you can't pay their usual rate again
- Why that weight is not a sign you are failing, and what the hours alone with footage, budgets and rejection emails teach you
- Why Christian thinks you need time alone with the work before you have something to bring to a room of other filmmakers
- Why this goes beyond film, to writers, painters, small business owners, truck drivers and parents at the kitchen table after midnight
- What Christian felt at the back of the theater at the Utah Beach Museum the first time an audience of strangers watched her film
- How a friend she had leaned on for years called from a hard first shoot, and how Christian got to be the voice on the other end of the line
- The C.S. Lewis line on friendship that describes how Christian met her best friend Sarah in 1989
Questions and answers
What is the difference between solitude and loneliness?
Christian Taylor says there are two kinds of being alone in creative work. Solitude is the time alone with the work, and it is when she has done her most creative thinking. You can't write a scene by committee, she says, and "The work needs the quiet." Loneliness is the weight that lands on one person: the fundraising, the money decisions, the rejection. Drawing on Henri Nouwen, she calls loneliness the desert and solitude the garden, and the work is turning one into the other.
Why is filmmaking so lonely?
Filmmaker Armin Korsos told Christian Taylor that "filmmaking is a very lonely process at times." He says it looks glamorous from the outside, but there is a lot of paperwork and busy work behind it. Christian adds the money side: the fundraising, the financial decisions, the meeting with someone who probably won't fund your film, and telling your crew you can't pay their usual rate. Nobody at the festival asks about that, she says. It is not a sign you are failing. "It's a sign that you're doing the work."
Why do creative people burn out?
In this Deep Dive, Christian Taylor points to the second kind of being alone as the one that can "wear you down to nothing": carrying the fundraising, the budget and the decisions by yourself, with nobody at the festival or on Instagram asking about it. The audience that watches the finished film will never know about the months spent alone with a spreadsheet. Her answer is not to avoid being alone, since the work needs it, but to find your people, so that someone is there when the hard kind of alone comes and tries to take you away.
How does community help filmmakers?
Christian Taylor compares finding your people after a long stretch alone with the work to finding an oasis in the desert. She tells of screening her film for strangers at the Utah Beach Museum in Normandy and feeling the weight get lighter, and of encouraging a friend whose camera crew walked off his first big shoot, after years of him encouraging her. "That's what community does for the work," she says. It doesn't take the alone away; it builds relationships so people can be there for each other.
What did C.S. Lewis say about how friendship begins?
In The Four Loves (1960), C.S. Lewis wrote that friendship is born the moment one person says to another, "What? You too? I thought I was the only one." Christian Taylor says that is how she met her best friend, Sarah. In their first weekend together, in 1989, they discovered a shared love of C.S. Lewis, Winnie the Pooh and the Bible, and they have been best friends ever since.
What is Filmmaker Friday Chicago?
Filmmaker Friday Chicago is a free event series for filmmakers co-founded by Armin Korsos, founder of the production company Caymanite. Christian Taylor describes her first visit as a whole room of filmmakers gathered on purpose on a Friday. What was different, she says, is that "It was a room full of people who had done the lonely work and showed up to be reminded that the loneliness wasn't a failure." The friend who introduced Christian to Armin is the reason she went in the first place.
Chapters
- 0:00 The Two Kinds of Alone
- 0:20 Armin Korsos on the Lonely Process
- 1:13 The Outside View vs. the Inside Reality
- 1:36 The First Alone. Solitude as the Creative Garden
- 3:38 The Second Alone. The Lonely Math of Filmmaking
- 5:28 Finding Your People. The Oasis in the Desert
- 7:26 What Community Does for the Work
About the topic
Henri Nouwen wrote about loneliness and solitude in Reaching Out (1975): "To live a spiritual life we must first find the courage to enter into the desert of our loneliness and to change it by gentle and persistent efforts into a garden of solitude." C.S. Lewis wrote about friendship in The Four Loves (1960).
Christian closes with a request: think of one person who is alone in their work right now, a filmmaker, a voice actor, a writer, a truck driver, even a lawyer, someone who has gone quiet because the work has them buried, and send them this episode. Not to fix anything, she says, but so they know they are not alone.
About Armin Korsos
Armin Korsos is a Chicago filmmaker and the founder of the production company Caymanite. He co-founded Filmmaker Friday Chicago, which hosted more than 1,700 unique attendees in its first year, all for free. In Episode 278 he talked with Christian about using AI in his work, his conservation documentary Brac, and building a film community.
The source episode
Adapt or Die: A Working Filmmaker on AI in 2026, Documentary First Episode 278 with Armin Korsos, founder of Caymanite. Read the episode page: Adapt or Die: A Working Filmmaker on AI in 2026.
About Documentary First
Documentary First is a weekly podcast about the people behind documentaries and how the work changed them. Host Christian Taylor, director of the award-winning The Girl Who Wore Freedom, talks with filmmakers, distributors, entertainment lawyers, actors and more, from Ken Burns and PBS American Masters creator Susan Lacy to first-timers, across more than 290 episodes. Each week brings one of two formats: a long-form conversation with the people behind films for HBO, Netflix, PBS and independent film, or The Deep Dive, where Christian takes one insight from a recent conversation and follows it wherever it leads. Listen Notes ranks the show in the top 5% of all podcasts worldwide. New episodes every week. Follow the show · About the podcast · Support the show on Patreon
Resources mentioned
- Reaching Out by Henri Nouwen
- The Four Loves by C.S. Lewis
- Caymanite, Armin Korsos's production company
- Filmmaker Friday
- Christian Taylor on IMDb
- Listen to Documentary First Episode 278 with Armin Korsos
Full transcript
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0:00
There are two kinds of being alone in this job, and they are not the same thing. One of them is the reason the work is any good, and the other one is the thing that'll wear you down to nothing if you let it. And the more I've been doing this, the more I think the best filmmakers know the difference. So I was talking to Armin Korsos last week. He's a filmmaker out of Chicago. He runs a production company called Caymanite and he's one of the co-founders of Filmmaker Friday Chicago, which is exactly what it sounds like, a bunch of filmmakers getting together on a Friday in Chicago. In that conversation, Armin said something every filmmaker who's ever made anything has felt. He said, filmmaking can be a very lonely process. I'm Christian Taylor, and today I want to talk about that. But first, let's take a listen to Armin. That is the kind of openness and honesty I've come to appreciate about Armin. And you know what? I think every filmmaker listening just nodded along. I know I did. Because here's the thing, from the outside, The work looks like the festival, the poster, the applause.
1:19
From the inside, the work is mostly you, alone, with the thing. But here's what I've been thinking a lot about. There are two kinds of being alone in this job, and they are not the same thing. Let me start with the first kind, because I don't think that we talk about this one enough. The times I have been the most creative have been the times I've been the most alone. Wandering in my thoughts with what I'm working on, listening to music that inspires me, sitting in a beautiful setting, nobody around, nothing to do but think about the work. There is a goodness to loneliness, a necessary side. You can't write a scene by committee. You can't find your voice in a room with everyone talking at once. You can't hear what the story is asking for if you're surrounded by screaming. The work needs the quiet. There's a writer named Henry Nowen who's helped me think about this. He says, Loneliness and solitude aren't the same thing. Loneliness is the desert. Solitude is the garden and the work is to turn one into the other. So that's the first kind of loneliness, the garden. The kind that makes the film any good. Then there is the other kind. And if you're a filmmaker listening to this, you may already know what I'm about to say.
2:39
The fundraising is lonely. The financial decisions are lonely. The will my credit card clear this month math is lonely. Do I take this meeting with someone who probably isn't going to fund my film, but might? Is lonely. The how do I tell my crew I can't pay them their usual rate again? Is lonely. Yeah, this work is not a cakewalk. All of that lands on the filmmaker, one person, you. And nobody at the festival is gonna ask about that. Nobody on Instagram is gonna congratulate you for surviving it. The audience that watches the finished film will never know the months you spent alone with that spreadsheet. So if you're in that math right now, know this, that weight is real. It is not a sign though that you're failing or bad at this. It's a sign that you're doing the work. This is what it's like for all of us at one time or another. Okay, so you've got both the good kind of alone and the hard kind of alone. And I think they both have something in common. Both of them are doing something to you while you're in them. The hours alone with the footage teach you how to see. The hours alone with the budget teach you what you value.
3:59
The hours alone with the rejection emails teach you what you're willing to keep fighting for. Both kinds of alone are forging you the good and the hard. They're making the craft and they're making you at the same time. And this is also something I've been turning around in my head this week. I don't think you can really walk into a room of other filmmakers and offer anything until those times of being alone have happened. I'm a writer, I'm a director, I'm a documentarian, I'm a voice actor. Those have to mean something. They have to come from somewhere. You have to know what you have to bring to the party and you have to be comfortable enough in your own skin to know you're worth talking to and you have something to offer. Both of those things come from the time alone with the work. Now, I want to pause for just a second because I know I've been talking about filmmakers, but I don't think this is only about us. If you write alone, if you record alone, if you paint alone, if you're running a small business or driving a truck. Or if you're at the kitchen table after midnight while the kids are in bed trying to figure out a thing, it's the same kind of alone, same kind of weight, and the same need for what I'm about to talk about.
5:19
Because here's the other side of all of this. The part where the alone stops being the whole story. Finding your people. Finding your people when you've been alone with the work for a long time can feel like finding an oasis in the desert to a man dying of thirst. I've had a few of those moments in my career and they are special. Perhaps you've had some too and if you haven't, maybe these will give you some hope and inspiration. Now the first time was when I screened my film for an audience, not crew, not family, strangers. And I stood in the back of the theater in the Utah Beach Museum in Normandy, to be exact. And I just felt the room. I listened to the breathing and the sniffling and the laughing and something I had been carrying for months now belonged to other people too. And the weight got lighter. We were in this together. The second was a phone call that I had quite recently. I had a friend. He'd just been hired on his first big shoot and he was going to be out of state for three weeks I had a feeling it wasn't going to be easy. And it wasn't.
6:36
He ended up doing as much production work as he was DPing and he was exhausted from holding the whole thing together. And then... The camera crew walked off the job. He reached out to me at one point, And from then on, I prayed for him and continued to check in on him. And I kept telling him the same thing. Press on, it will get better. Don't give up. This is the place where you find out who you are. It will make you better. Don't give up. I talked to him last night and they hired a new crew and he is a new man. He told me he's ready to do his next film And he told me I was right. And you know what? He's a former crew member on one of my production teams. And he has encouraged me through hard moments in my own filmmaking more times than I can count. He's also the one who introduced me to Armin. And he's the reason I walked into Filmmaker Friday in the first place. So... When he was the one in the hard place, I got to be the voice on the other end of the line after years of him being that voice for me. That's what community does for the work. It doesn't take the alone away. It gives you the space to build relationships so you can be there for each other when the alone comes and tries to take you away.
7:57
It reminds me of something that C.S. Lewis said in the book about the four loves. He says, is born the moment one person says to another, what, you too? I thought I was the only one. My friend Sarah and I met that way in the first weekend that we spent together back in 1989. I know I'm as old as dirt. We discovered our shared love of C.S. Lewis, Winnie the Pooh in the Bible. What, you too? I thought I was the only one. And we've been best friends ever since. the third moment that I want to tell you about. was about the time that I went to Filmmaker Friday for the first time. Armin's thing. A whole room of filmmakers on purpose on a Friday. And I'll tell you what was different about that room. It was a room full of people who had done the lonely work and showed up to be reminded that the loneliness wasn't a failure. It was just part of it. We're built for solitude. The work needs it. And we're built for community. The worker needs it. You need the alone to make the thing and you need the people to keep being the kind of person who can keep making the thing. Okay, so here's what I want to ask you to do this week. Think of one person you know who's alone in their work right now, a filmmaker, a voice actor, truck driver, a writer, a podcaster, heck it can even be a lawyer, anyone who's gone quiet on you because the work has them buried.
9:19
Send them this episode. Not because it's going to fix anything for them, just so they know they're not alone. And if you're new here, hit follow or subscribe wherever you're listening or watching. And then Documentary First and the Deep Dive will end up in your feed every week. And if you've been listening for a while and this show means something to you, we'd love to have you join us on Patreon. The link is in the show notes below. Hey, and if you're listening on Spotify, scroll down on the episode page. There's a quick poll there I'd love you to answer. The alone is part of it. The people are part of it, and you need both. And the best filmmakers I know have figured that out. I'm Christian Taylor. This has been Documentary First, The Deep Dive. And I'll see you next time.